TIATM #048 - The Unnamed Hater & The Neck Hole

The dynamic duo is back for Episode 48 to dish out off-the-cuff draft grades and expose the absolute worst picks in the league. We also tackle the hard-hitting lifestyle issues, like the tragedy of deep V-necks and the strict enforcement of the high school five-minute rule. Meanwhile, the "Unnamed Hater" lurks in the background dropping unwarranted commentary while wearing a highly questionable Old Navy shirt. Congratulations on another spectacular draft weekend!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:20

What is up, you clowns? We are back with the 48th episode of the This Is All That Matters podcast. I am your host, The Marathon Continues, and I am joined by my special friend, Special Decisions. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_04 0:37

What's up, dude? Glad to be here.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Back again. Back again. We uh had some people fiending out there for the draft recap. And by people, I mean Brian Handel has texted me twice now to find out when the draft recap. I think somebody's feeling themselves. I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:00

Wow. We gotta look because we're doing most of this off the I haven't I mean listen, I checked the picture occasionally as in like you know, three to four times a day. But like that's just a quick reference point. I'm not like studying it to make a draft grade. We're gonna do draft grades off the top of the dome. But we also did, I thought we did a fair share of analysis. Like, I think we actually got to the point. I've never done it this much where like we looked and we're like, okay, I think we said everything that needs to be said. Like we made enough weird bets on half PPR fantasy points between Colts receivers.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:41

Sean's in there with the I mean fun bet. Excuse me, unnamed hater. The unnamed hater.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

Unnamed hater. This was um one of the funnier post-draft analysis sessions that I think I've ever been a part of. That video that Chris sent, um literally you know, like I saw it at the airport, and I was I was laughing so hard to myself that I was whimpering, and I think like the people around me were weirded out. It was like I think it was the funniest thing. It's funny.

SPEAKER_04 2:15

I thought it was funny too. It wasn't that I wonder if it's funny to everyone.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

I thought it was well, I tested it. I put I showed it to my wife, and she was laughing genuinely hard.

SPEAKER_04 2:26

I didn't even show that to my wife. I just I took a picture of myself making the face when the unnamed hater in the background is uh just oh, he's just like standing the other side of the table, just commenting on what people are talking about.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

He's like, Oh, good, fun bet, cool bet, guys.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Shout out to Mr. Unnamed Hater, he was in peak form uh again with not one shower nor change of clothes uh the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 2:59

Yeah, he's there. Looking like a guy who like you wonder, like you go to the why, you're like, does that guy live here? Like, why you know? Like, where are the clothes? Does he clean the clothes? Like, it's remarkable. He's a relatively well-off person. Like, it's remarkable he has a t-shirt that looks that bad. I think not to get us going on t-shirts because we have our fair share of uh fun. Um t-shirts, the gold. I know I'm gonna get it. Doesn't matter. There's no way for me to shirt, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Good shirt, good shirt. It's a good shirt.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Um yeah, shout out to you, man, and your old navy swag that you have.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

Um I would say that's ridiculous. You guys don't even know how to get most people. Don't even know how to get t-shirts that fit right. People start wrong. They can't get shirts that are too short, the neck. I'm big on the neck hole. You gotta get the neck hole right. Any kind of loose neck out, I'm out. And I've always been that way. I've been that way since I was little.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

Yeah, the neck, right? Yeah, Jim. The neck hole. Stop it. Is that a thing that people say? The neck hole? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

So you don't know. Is there another name for it?

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Yeah, I mean the collar. Uh well, v-nex is not a collar. There's no collar, but it's a t-shirt. What is it? Collar.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Uh RBs wear V-Nix, if you know what I mean. I think that's an RB thing.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

Certain RBs, some RBs we won't to be, we might name them. Handel.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Handel with the joke of the weekend, uh in his uh evening attire, approached me, I believe it was right outside of the restaurant, um, in a high-pitched voice, letting me know that he was a bottom. Um, he's like, I'm a bottom.

SPEAKER_04 4:58

I remember you always you really, you know, what you do is you did this last year. You you like talk about the joke of the weekend during the weekend so much so that it becomes not the joke of the weekend? Yes, but I mean that probably was still uh it was great.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

Um, he was referring to the bottom bunk, which I'm not sure that I I thought he was just making a joke about his shirt, but he was actually talking about where he was gonna sleep.

SPEAKER_04 5:24

I think it was a double entendre.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

Oh, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

If you're paying attention, shout out to you with that one. Catching my drift.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Uh beautiful house. Any any other highlights from the weekend we can mention? I'd like I'd like to say that I um would like to tally up if I was right on the the betting between you and Chris. I think my over-under was 250.

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Yeah, you did that. We got 100. No, you were under under.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

All right.

SPEAKER_04 5:56

But we we entertained all sorts of amounts. 1.1 million. What's the number Chris said, which was from a song, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

525,600.

SPEAKER_04 6:08

I still know what it's supposed to. We really never. It's funny. I don't know if we would have remembered the best. Certainly would have remembered, wouldn't have remembered the rest of it.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

So much depth to Chris. I didn't know how much depth there was. So what a um I had no idea he enjoyed musicals.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

I think he's the I think he's the uh I think he's the MVP. If you had to choose an MVP and an LVP, you know, Chris MVP comes in, hasn't been here 20 years of this league existing. He's coming in, he's a new guy, he's got big shoes to fill, good keepers, and he just doesn't, you know, foot on the gas.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Well, I I was impressed with his uh propensity to opine on every pick that was made. This was uh he fit right in uh to the game.

SPEAKER_04 7:02

I wasn't paying attention. I was locked in, I didn't know he's like, oh, I don't know about that. He's just like looking at his claw. Not sure if we can trust that.

SPEAKER_03 7:10

He and Claw might uh you know too close.

SPEAKER_02 7:14

I didn't realize he was so mean. That was that was uh that was a little unnerving for me. I didn't realize he's gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_04 7:20

You don't you know don't don't do it. There's no reason to speak meanly to the AI. Say thank you, man. Say thank you, move along. You don't know.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Yeah, you don't know, it's right.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

You really don't know. Just say that I feel bad when I forget to say thanks. Sometimes I just because I just you know, the I think actually the best thing of all the things that AI does, the best thing is that you can ask it for something and then just totally fucking ignore it. You know, and you're like, you imagine you could do that with a person, like if you work with someone, you're like you ask them for something and like they work really hard, and you just and you just like totally forget about it, and you come back like 30 days later, and you're like, Oh, thanks. Like you check back on it. You don't have to do anything, like you have to show no respect, but there's no reason to be like overtly rude to the AI.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

I don't think uh well, I guess we'll find out at the end in the long run. We'll see. Uh shout out to you. You got you did pretty well on the the um actually, you didn't do very well at all on the mock draft, did not go well for you.

SPEAKER_04 8:30

No, I don't know. I I don't think I was that off. I mean, it was close. There's like always one or two things that throw it off, so we didn't get that many picks right. But we also mock draft as it mocked mocked as if we were going to trade, which we we cancelled. I had two trades. I had a tensive trade with Sam and a tentative trade with you. Canceled my tensor trade with you. Sam's trade was contingent upon Nico Collins making it. But yeah, well, uh enough about me. Nobody wants to hear about my trades. Let's just say, nobody, you know, listen. We anyway, the point is my mock wasn't that far off. It was one or two picks wrong. One picks I can read it for you.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

I have it here for you if you'd like me to read it.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

You want to compare the mock to the real life? We got one and two, right? Yeah, that's two out of ten.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Everything else is wrong, right?

SPEAKER_04 9:27

So that's but it's really like one person does a weird thing and it throws everything off. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

What's the weird thing that you would call out?

SPEAKER_04 9:37

What was the mock? Um, I guess we expected Sean to uh not end up with his RB2 as Aaron Jones. I thought we he might be thinking of a different approach. No, it no, not trying to insult him, but you know, I I don't think AJ Brown was an egregious pick or anything, but I just think we expected him to do something different.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Uh, for all the folks out there, why don't we go ahead and read off Sean's draft? I think that would help.

SPEAKER_04 10:06

Are we are you want to do you want to do draft grades right now? You want to do it? You want to do it?

SPEAKER_02 10:11

I was jumping right into it, but you know, I feel like we could pick up on some things as we go along because unless you have any more weekend highlights that you'd like to call out.

SPEAKER_04 10:19

No, I think we gave Chris the MVP. I think everybody did a great job, even the unnamed hater. And he had a great like he had a throwback uh to high school Friday. Really, it was like he was on one kind of the whole weekend, yeah. Just Friday, just kind of beefing with Ben across the table. Nobody does much. Oh, we should talk about it. It was like stuff when like people call fives. It was like that. Like, and Sean was one of those people in high school, like you called fives, like he enforced his fives, you know. He expected his seat back. That was a real thing. He forgot about that.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

You're gonna hold your chair. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

You didn't. I wonder if our kids are gonna grow up in a world like that.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

I don't think it's longer than five minutes, dog.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

Sorry, that's really like just imagine the kind of environment you're in where like you're you're gonna lose your chair, and you're it's so important where you're sitting is so important. You do not have that chair, and like you're gonna spend the whole rest of the day supper. Like, what's happening? People are passing around blunt, so you can't even get that near there, you can't see the TV.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Yeah, right. You end up with some whack ass seat, bro. It's a wrap for you.

SPEAKER_04 11:33

So I look at like really wealthy people. Like, what if you like you know, you don't have this problem? Maybe you have other problems. Well, like the unnamed hater before everybody has a chair. City city issue.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Yeah, the the unnamed hater was uh really being defensive with his capital um after the draft. Man, was he throwing around some can we get a recap of that? What somebody put that in the round?

SPEAKER_03 12:01

He's like, You I got you more points than you. More points. Also, unnamed hater really needed to like he really was like fixated on seat location. He's like, You are sitting over there. Anyone sitting to my left, you're sitting too, you're sitting diagonal from me. So, what do you say? Let's just be clear for the unnamed hater. He was in the last place seat. It's not where Mike was sitting, it's his seat. That was the last place seat.

SPEAKER_04 12:32

So maybe we need to sit it in like actual first to last order next time, so everybody gets it. Because shows I wasn't saying this is really, really all about the seat location.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

I think you got fives on that last place, dog. Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Um really found the best game. Like he found like it's like this game was meant for him, like to trick people into saying a name, and then he's done the whole draft. How many times did he get people? We should have called, we should have counted. It might have been 10 names.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

He's like, oh yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo drink so bad.

SPEAKER_04 13:19

Oh man, that was fun. I guess it makes it fun. I mean, I was really trying not to drink. I guess I had a little bit, but I was, you know, certainly uh more coherent than last year. Oh, yeah, last year. This was my goal, man. The room wasn't spinning. You know, it wasn't as funny though. It was truly not as funny. It's too bad. Like, that might be the funniest draft we'll ever have.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah, it was a good time. Um, honorable mention to when Ben came and put his arm around the unnamed Tater um at dinner. That to me also was a high point. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:53

It's like almost a little awkward. It was like tense.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

He's like, it was a little tense between me and uh let me go, let me just go have a conversation. And he's just talking to Sam about like his children. That was what they were.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

No, I I don't know if there's anything that was uh funnier than Ben putting his arm around you in general. It's you know, he he really knows how to make you feel small. So shout out to him. Um yeah, so uh great weekend, guys. Great job. Um, speaking of the unnamed hater, why don't we go there first? His draft is as follows first round pick. Oh, should we start with the the keepers?

SPEAKER_04 14:34

Name the keepers real fast.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

Okay, the unnamed haters keepers. Jaden Daniels is a franchise player, Justin Jefferson is a two-year player, Brock Bowers is a rookie player.

SPEAKER_04 14:46

Wow, Justin Jefferson is gonna become available.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Yeah, he's gonna be out there, booty butt naked, touching the world. Um, okay, so first to last pick, we've got AJ Brown, Bucky Irving, Kyler Murray, Brian Thomas Jr.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

Oh, you could see you can hear you're smirking. I can hear you laughing.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Rome O'Dunes, DK Metcalf, Aaron Jones, Michael Pittman, Jordan Mason, Zach Charbonnet, Fernando Mendoza, the Texans defense, George Kittle, Jameis Winston, and Michael Mayer.

SPEAKER_04 15:29

He even really did it with the last two picks, which was like handcuffing the tight end. I have to say that there are there are three picks here. I'd say about three picks that are actually solid. Jordan Mason and Mendoza. And actually, Kittle's one of the best picks on the draft. Kittle slipped, kiddos healthy, yeah. Or he's coming back. Like, obviously, he's 33 off in Achilles, but like I think it's one of those where like we're a 10-team league, and people take one tight end and we have small benches, and people, and I did this myself. You just like you're like, I'm not thinking about that, and like you just stop thinking about tight end, and like he should have gone five rounds earlier, yeah. Like he goes like pick a hundred now, and like, and almost immediately after that, he was like running rounds, like he might not play week one, but he's probably gonna play, you know, like week week three.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

You know, um, one two two comments about that. One, I never I if I never hear somebody say he's 33 coming off an Achilles ever again, it'll be too soon. And then the second thing is bad.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

I mean it's a bad combo.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

The combo is bad, doesn't sound good, but uh since I saw Jason Tatum come back so quickly from Achilles, it really like it doesn't have the same connotation that it used to have. I don't think it's um well right now.

SPEAKER_04 16:54

I mean, this season we have some like this is like the ACL Achilles comeback season. It's crazy coming back faster than you expect. Tucker Kraft and then he had that injury in like November, Kittle had this injury in December. Charbonnet, they're talking about him coming back. Everybody thought neighbors was dead, he's looking pretty good. Knock on one so maybe that's the theme. You know, every season has a theme. Although a lot of injuries in the preseason, but a lot of people bouncing back 2025. But anyway, wait, rest of the draft. Let's just say AJ Brown, totally reasonable pick. Fine. He had a good day today, seven for seven against the Eagles. He brought his A game. You see that during PlayStation?

SPEAKER_02 17:38

He dropped the first one.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

He did. I I saw I don't know, I heard he was targeted. He was seven for seven when targeted.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

But oh, I saw a drop.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

Maybe that didn't maybe that but was invalid. It was invalidated somehow.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

Anyhow, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:55

That's fine. No criticism of that. Totally normal pick. Every pick, every pick after that is like approximately two rounds too early, or like the next five picks, like Bucky's legitimate, exactly. Like it's like that's two rounds too early. Like Bucky went in in what is round five, like basically pick 45. He should be going like he went well two rounds before Travis A champ. Like they probably go neck and neck in ADP. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, you know, it's fine. You want Bucky, like, you need to go do that though. You need to go that hard at him, and then Kyler, same thing. Kyler is like, this is nice. Yeah, that's a value QB. He stops being a value if you take him before Trevor Lawrence. Right, that makes absolutely no sense. It's the same thing. Brian Thomas Jr. Forget that's a dud. You're gonna drop him, and then Rome.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

When you hear Rich Rebar, when you hear Rich Rebar list off the corners he has to face, and yeah, he has a bad, he has a bad start to the season.

SPEAKER_04 19:01

You're not going to play him, and he doesn't like he, you know, you listen. That's the original you used to make you used to make jokes about when Mikey Reeds like shares a Twitter clip and makes an assessment of a rookie. But we might have to. I mean, we're one year away from calling that a full W in that one for A.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

We'll go the full year. We'll we'll take that.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

We'll go, we'll go a full year, and then you can just recall that because it was really based on. I think he's I don't think he wants it that much. You know, I don't want to do the does he like football or not. I know that offends some people, but like I think he's not as tough as you would like. Sure. How big is the dog? How hard is the dog in him?

SPEAKER_03 19:47

Woof woof. As they are wont to say.

SPEAKER_04 19:52

So, anyhow, I mean, I think why do we give this draft? A couple of good picks at the end. I mean, Mendoza and Kittle are interesting picks. Mendoza, he might have sit on, and he hasn't run.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

So was that somebody who called in the Hispanic Jameis Winston? So they call him that?

SPEAKER_04 20:06

Uh uh Autistic Hispanic. Oh, excuse me. Dang. Which is probably good, you know, Jameis a little autistic himself.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 20:16

Who isn't?

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Who isn't? Who isn't? Fair point. Takes one to no one. Takes one to no one, baby.

SPEAKER_04 20:25

Uh, I think we give this draft, he got himself out of the F with those picks, but I think they have to give this a D minus. What do you think?

SPEAKER_05 20:33

I think that's fair.

SPEAKER_04 20:35

I mean, like, just do all the picks and then take two good players in rounds two and three. Like, try it out.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Yeah, I think the thing that rounds out the D minus was his just overall approach to the draft in general. It was clear there was no preparation done, and whatever research he did have was from 2025.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

Yeah, it did feel that's exactly right. Actually, it felt like a draft, it felt like he like he had missed the season, like he dated the men in black thing. Yeah, it went back and he missed the whole thing. It's like Bucky Irving's available.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

It's like Brian Dobbins Jr. shouldn't be falling.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Like, what whoa, they don't know.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

Oh man. Um, so not not his but really. You cannot prepare and show up to an online draft. You it's really pretty hard to not prepare and show up to uh manual draft, especially when it's super flex.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Shout out to Chris for um the slight panic he had when he realized it was an offline draft. Um, I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

She was like, wait, but how am I supposed to see who's available? And we were all like, Oh, you're fucked.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

I was like, You're in trouble, bro.

SPEAKER_04 21:52

But let's say he did it together and he was he hit it what did he say? He's like, I remember when I was a little boy.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

I remember when I used to be a big job. Yeah, now I'm a man. I grew up now. I'm a man. Shout out to him.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

But uh you want to look at his draft?

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Oh, yeah. I was gonna go then in uh draft order, but we just go in draft order.

SPEAKER_04 22:18

Go in draft order.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

Do it, keep it simple for yourself. Um first pick this year. Good old fashioned handel. Uh, which I will have to say, I feel like you know, this was a good handel year. This is I like this draft. I remember liking this draft at the time. Excited to hear your analysis. He was going in with two Bengals and a Saint. Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, Tyler Schuck.

SPEAKER_04 22:42

That's like the who day draft. Those are the two teams that say who they right? Why do they both say it? I don't right. Good question. Who that do?

SPEAKER_02 22:53

Who daddy? Um, who that do?

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Oh, that's just my baby daddy.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Okay, uh, sorry. Uh all right, draft from Mike Handel, Jonathan Taylor, Jalen Waddell, Christian Watson, Tucker Kraft, Parker Washington, Jordan Tyson, oh boy, Josh Downs, Kyle Monungay, Stephon Diggs, Jacoby Brissett, Travis Kelsey, oh like a true racist. Jacksonville, Chris Rodriguez, Ryan Flornoy, however, you say that. Yeah, you got John Tucker.

SPEAKER_04 23:39

Man, I thought Mike did a good job. I think Waddle Watson is riskier than I would have done. I put him on T. Higgins right here. I mean, I I don't want to I thought he would have done like a T. Higgins McConkey thing. Not to say that that what I did was correct. That's what the kind of thing I would have put him on. I I understand people really like Christian Watson. I think it's a big risk. Like, I think you took him a little early, and then Waddle, it's like a little wish casting link. There's the wish casting, it's like he was really good. This guy is hobbling half of his life, man. And you've never, when was the last time we saw Sean Payton really make a great fantasy player? That's not the quarterback. It's been a while, actually. A long time. But I get it. I I see the appeal. I don't think those are bad picks. And I thought Mike did a great job in rounds four through eight, or technically round seven through ten on this. Yeah, craft, Parker Washington, Jordan Tyson, Josh Downs. But like this is taking a turn, though. I mean, the Jordan Tyson thing was a risk. Totally reasonable time to pick him. But this stretch, Josh Downs had Keenan Allen signed. Manon guy is also hurt.

SPEAKER_03 24:59

Yeah. That was a really bad little trick. The upside of Kevin Crack.

SPEAKER_04 25:05

Now it's like he's gonna he's gonna what? They're gonna reduce his snaps to the first half of the year.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

Well, it's just a little high, potentially.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

I think it's a reasonable time, though. I thought Mike took a lot of good upside players. He didn't really get an RB3, though. He's like really only got two running backs. Like Chris Roberts do that.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

You can risk that if you feel like your receiver will roll with it. Yeah, you could do it.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

I mean, he has two very good running backs. Right, exactly. So, I mean, like I, you know, I I do overall, like I thought he had a pretty good draft. It's gone a little south, though. I mean, the Jordan Tyson thing really impacts him. He drafted a lot of interesting receivers, though. Like, I like Josh Downs and I like Parker Washington.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

The the QB2 spot might end up in trouble.

SPEAKER_04 25:53

Well, now that guy is also like now he lost Camaro, not that Camaro's that important, but like he lost Tyson. Part of the appeal for him was that he's gotten a better right skill position core, supporting cash and now that's like the combo. Like, that's one of the worst case, like the with him having Shuck, it's the same thing with the Bengals. Like, he has Shuck and Tyson, Tyson, and I wanted Tyson, but now this Tyson thing is like, what is going on? It's really scary. This is many, many hamstring injuries. It's a wrap. Like, what is he gonna do? What happens if he comes back?

SPEAKER_02 26:29

You want to make a deal, Mike? Hit me up, dog. Shout, shout him out.

SPEAKER_04 26:32

You want him as one of your guys?

SPEAKER_02 26:35

No, it just feels like a good buying opportunity.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

Uh, so I'd say, but overall, I mean, I thought this great this draft was pretty good. Jonathan Taylor was a you know, no nonsense pick. Don't make it. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Take your medicine. Take your medicine, don't you? Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 26:51

It's not really medicine. I mean, it's good. Obviously, if you go south, that would be unlucky. It's pretty standard if you take Jonathan Taylor.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Yeah, but like that's the fantasy god's fault. That's not your fault.

SPEAKER_04 27:03

Right. Exactly. That's not your fault. You gotta take him. There's really to me, it's pretty clear cut.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

Yeah. Sometimes the cookie pulls not the way you want, but overall, though, I think I give it a B.

SPEAKER_04 27:16

I think he could have done a little bit, you know, but he got a lot of he got a lot of receiver depth. I just think the the big it would be better. I think Waddle, Watson, it's big risk there. And I think you could get you could get players that maybe are a little more reliable. I know where he's picking. Like receivers went. I thought like a buca would make it. He almost got Olave. Olave is way better than Waddle there. Like, that's good value.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

I think he's on the verge of death as well, though. I don't know if it's like it's less risky. He just one crossing route might be the end of his career. So I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

This is one specific type of injury.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Well, we'll see. Um, shout out to him. That might be the best handel grade I've ever heard. You give. That's a pretty good one. I thought legit.

SPEAKER_04 28:03

I mean, I think you liked it. I think I think it was, I think it was well. I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

I think it's well put together. I enjoy it. Um, all right. Next one. Big shout out to Irv. Shout out to Irv. Uh big big green, the big green. Big green. Yo, green, you left your shorts. You left your swim shorts at the I didn't even remember the Irv thing.

SPEAKER_04 28:27

I took me taking me a second. You did. I have your swim shorts, Sam, and the unnamed haters.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Oh, you didn't throw them out? You didn't just like decide to throw them in the garbage. I hadn't thought about that story in a long time.

SPEAKER_04 28:39

It's funny that fish remembers remembers. You know, we all have different things we remember, like fish remembers. I did not remember that story at all. Obviously, it had a different impact on him. It's like you and his friend had a very strange feeling because you threw out his bad. Yeah, you could have also just said nothing, like just don't say anything.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

There were a lot of different ways to handle that.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

I mean, the throwing it out thing was go to the store and get a plastic bag, put it in a plant. Like, what's the big deal? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

Oh, snap. Sorry, bro. I threw those. I had to throw them on. I had to shit on those.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

I had to throw all right.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Well, you know, shout out to me and my younger self for that. Um, over to Sammy. We Sam uh went into this draft with Lamar Jackson, Drake May, and Omarion. Is it Omarion or Omarion? Omarion Hampton.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

Uh yeah, Omarion is too much like the RB singer.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Sure, okay.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

Bad man, I mean, just saying for a part.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Shout out to him. Um, all right, we go CD Lamb, Tyler Warren, DeAndre Swift, Terry, Scary Terry, DJ Moore, Trevion, Jaden Reed, RJ Harvey, Jordan Love, your favorite, Chuba Hubbard, Xavier Worthy, Jadon Blue, Tank Bigsby, Taekwondo Thornton, Dylan Drummond. I have to say, I think Sam is uh an established run subscriber. I think based on what we got going here.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

So I think some of these people, I think that I think a few of them are. I think a few of them are for sure, but I think Sam, I think you're correct, but I think this is a good draft. I mean, CD's pretty standard, Tyler Warren. Now he's hurt though. Yes, sorry, sorry, but you know, it's early. We got a lot of time. I think Swift, I mean, listen, and now Swift and Manon guys are like Swift is like value's only gone up. I think Swift Scary Terry, I think the type for Scary Terry with Dig Sonny isn't great. I have I think they're concerned about the biggest. I don't think it I don't think it bad. That's a good value though. I don't like DJ Moore personally, but that's also not bad value. I don't think Travion is is worth it. I'd rather, I mean, like, I guess that's at the end of a round where like Price and Tutan go. But personally, you know, I don't I'm not excited about a guy who like really doesn't have like from what we can tell, he has no chance to win the job, right? Do we think what are his chances if you can't win the job? Like, why are we why do we want you there?

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Right. The the contingent upside of last off season doesn't appear to exist any longer.

SPEAKER_04 31:40

Yeah, there was more upside last now. It's like, oh, they clearly know who like who they want to start. To me, I personally, obviously, I like the guy, but I would take Jonathan Brooks before this guy, because to me that's a person who can win the job. And there's more there might be more upside, you don't really know. Like Trayvon I but Treyvon, he won the job. He made some, he had some huge games. Well, he didn't win the job, he when he had the job, he had some big games, but overall, he wasn't that impressive of a player, and he has demonstrated to nobody that he's even in a 50-50.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Hold on, did you hear the 50 touchdown stat though? 50 yard touchdown stat?

SPEAKER_04 32:27

I didn't, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

No, no rookie has had as many 50-yard touchdowns since Saquon, the last player to have as many 50 yard touchdowns as a rookie. Wow. I mean, he's got a big he scores touchdowns, man.

SPEAKER_04 32:43

He scores long touchdowns, yeah. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

That part is good. That's confirmed. It's just whether or not they want him to play.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

Yeah, it like really seems like they don't trust him as much as they trust the other guy.

SPEAKER_04 32:57

Anyone could get injured.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Are we losing your attention here? What's happening? Is that a full yawn?

SPEAKER_04 33:01

I had to fix, I had to fix my throat, bro.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Hey, yo, fix your throat. I make a neck hole.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

Fix a neck hole, though. Yo, chat with chests all puffed out. It's like unnamed hater, and his chest puffed out. Like, like you, you can't speak. You two seats to my right. You can't say anything, chest all puffed out.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

Uh I think this is the I think I don't like the the Trayvon, RJ Harvey, little DJ Moore, but like I think they're the first picks are good. Like, that's very reliable, like solid. Like, he another person who maybe had too much of a friendly substance last year and was like, I'm not gonna do that now. I'm gonna be a little more measured. Yeah, and just went execute a draft plan, and he got some. I like some I like some of the upside picks in the end. Jordan Love was a very good value, even if I think he's like you know, not that cool. Like he's the nerd, he's the nerd QB. It's lame. The nerd QB is always just lame. It's like he is so good, his pa is. I was like, they do watch the dude play. Go on, he's not a bum, he's just fine. He's like he's he's like um uh in a McShanahan offense, and he's like decent enough, but we don't have to talk about him like he's this dope dude. He's not right, he's not, and he doesn't make wide receiver ones. That's why we don't like him that much. Because make a wide receiver one, can you make it make it make a wide receiver one happen? I like guys who make that's why I like Jay Cover, like throw the ball to the guy over the guy, throw it to the guy, let him go, like do a Matt Stafford thing, like let him eat. Yeah, try that. Like you're just out here like spreading the ball around, throwing it, everyone's like, Oh, this is the week for Christian Watson, and then he throws to Dobbs, you know. So that's another reason. It's like all fantasy stuff. It's like why it's really why I love Brian Hoyer because he made a tight end that he made really good.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

What was like a oh on the Browns?

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Yeah, it was like it was like Josh Gordon and the other guy. What's that much of a difference between Brian Hoyer and Jordan Love? Not that much, probably not that much. No, um you know, some people might think Mina Kimes wouldn't like that, but other people know. Well, I think we give Sam uh B minus. B minus, good, great. Shout out to you, Sam. Oh I thought good job. Chuba Hubbard, come on, drop that guy, Xavier Worthy, Chuba Hubbard. Drop waiver wire fodder. Whatever, that's later. That's round 13, 14, whatever, but still. Come on, you know, Xavier Worthy. There's somebody else on the Chiefs, not Rashi Rez either. Let's talk about him later. Talk about the pickup. Okay, Josh.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Um, Josh is next. He has three keepers. One is named Josh Allen. We all have three keepers. Now we can report his name, Saquon Barkley. The third one is the newly suspended Quinshawn Judkins. He got suspended. Um, no, no, he did not get suspended. He was they made him sit out of practice because he got in too too many fights yesterday. Oh wow, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 36:32

I like that dog.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

Yeah, a little dog, a little dog and man. We're getting fights.

SPEAKER_04 36:36

I like guys getting fights. You want the ball, you get in fights. This is what we like shoving.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Pushing people, push you, I'll push you. Um, why do you think people do that? Why do we that's the thing? That's the thing that people go to. They go shh push you, move you. So weird. All right. Um, Josh, Rashi Rice, Chris Olave, Josh Jacobs, Jameson Williams, Patty Mahomes, Cortland Sutton, back to back, Cortland Sutton, Marvin Harrison.

SPEAKER_04 37:10

Sad. That's a sad run, man. There's some fun stuff to do there. That's not fun.

SPEAKER_02 37:14

Come on. Uh, Casey Concepcion.

SPEAKER_04 37:17

This guy's fun, though. That guy's got some fun.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

He looks like he's kind of fun. Daniel Jones, Wandale.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

A Wandale hasn't what an He always ends up with Jordan Anderson.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

And yep, that's his guy. Dallas Goddard. He's like um, you know, Brian Cox, he's like uh the Brian Cox to his parcels, you know, he's just like always on his squad. Uh Dallas Goddard, Denver just like that, except the opposite. Dalton Kincaid, Antonio Williams. You know, I have to say the double tapping on the tight end at the end of the draft seems like a reasonable strategy.

SPEAKER_04 37:55

Yeah, I mean, he missed he missed George Kittle. Like he's the one he's like, wait, he's like, Oh, I just no George Kittle went one. You don't have to go get Goddard.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

No, he went 123, right? He picked Well Kittle.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

I mean, come on, get Kittle, that's a perfect listen. Goddard is Goddard. This is, I mean, any of these tight ends, you know.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

George Kittle went 124. I don't think that I think taking Goddard in front of Kittle is reasonable.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

No, I disagree, man. That's a that's Goddard's the perfect guy to get after Kittle. First of all, you just wait and you you take Kittle and then you get Juwan Johnson. Obvious move. 900 yards. Nobody's been more disrespectful.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

Juwan Johnson is the Brian Cox to your parcels.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

Nobody's disrespected more than Juwan Johnson. 900 yards, 80 catches.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 38:51

No love. That's what the dude had. No love. No love. No love. And everyone, Kyle Pitts is like the seventh tight end, and Juwan Johnson's like the 20th tight end. Explain it to me. And then now Tyson. So for you could have said, okay, he's not the second target anymore. It's Tyson. You could have argued, but their quarterback is now a little bit more known and established. Like Shuck has a relationship with him, and Shuck threw to him in college, by the way. And Shuck said he's gonna get 900 a thousand yards. Shuck said that.

SPEAKER_05 39:23

Oh deal.

SPEAKER_04 39:25

But now Tyson's hurt. Why is Juwan Johnson not a top eight tight end? Why would Pitts go ahead of Juwan Johnson? Right now.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

I still haven't heard the Buccaneers take on Pitts yet out there in the world. That's it. That's a there's all that's a unique one.

SPEAKER_04 39:42

We and you now we can all clock it. We can all clock it this year.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Yeah, we're gonna be watching that.

SPEAKER_04 39:48

One other tight end, and then he just holds Pitts. Hopefully, they play the Bucks early. But anyway, that all that is to say he should have drafted Kittle. That was a big mistake by him, especially because he needed the tight end. I think Olave, I mean, listen, I think Rashi Rice, like if you're telling, like, so we're going in order. I like some of these people are gonna have some regrets about some of the things they could have done. Rashi, I thought hard about keeping Rashi, but now that I've seen Rashi move, I think I think it's a wrap. I think like maybe he got some touchdowns. I don't, I feel like he's a finished, he's like it's over for him. I think I I legitimately think like it's like the knee. Maybe he's maybe he's not that hard of a worker, which wouldn't check out. Like he's on his way to fantasy and NFL like irrelevance. Like, he'll see.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

Like, I thought he would slide. That's why I was I kept uh taunting. Yeah, you were trying to talk about it, man. Why are you doing that?

SPEAKER_01 40:48

You're like, you're like, what you're like, whoa, that is too high for him, dog. Are we sure?

SPEAKER_04 40:55

I mean, that is honestly a normal ADT for him, but I do think now, like, there's negative buzz. Watch the dude run around. Go watch. He was really good two years ago. Last year, he was not that he was productive, he wasn't that good.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

I am just surprised. Like, we did not get the Justin Herbert pick there. That is just so you thought you got the Herbert pick. I thought that was so clear, as clear as this.

SPEAKER_04 41:19

Yeah, we did, yeah, we did think that. I thought he would. I mean, Derek Henry's his boy, he loves Derrick Henry. I'm really surprised he didn't take Derrick Henry. But he went algo, he went to he goes, he's you know, when you're algo based, you just follow, you don't follow AI. Oh, he got that stack, got that stack, so but I think the I mean, I think uh I I understood why he didn't want AJ Brown like he wanted someone on the Chiefs. I just think now as I've watched more, like I'm not into Russian, but but Olave was good. Jagos is probably a value. I don't know. I'm not into Jameson this year. The Sutton and Harrison thing. Like people are having fun. We're having some fun in those rounds. Have some fun.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

That's not fun.

SPEAKER_04 42:05

That is not fun. There's nothing fun there. There's so many. I mean, like, this is like I understand like some of the picks there are just like so like you took Jalen Warren in that round, like that's fun.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

You know, you want to hear everybody's round six and round seven pick. Uh, your picks are Malik Willis and Jonathan Brooks. Handel's picks are Jordan Dice and Josh Downs. That's fun. That's fun. Sam, Trayvion, and Jaden Reed.

SPEAKER_04 42:41

Okay, at least that's fun though.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

No. What is it? DK Metcalf and Aaron Jones.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

Dude, that's fun. It's legitimately fun in 2022. Maybe like Aaron Jones was fun in 2019. Like 2019, like he was the man. I won a championship with him in 2018. It was cool in like 2021, maybe, but by 2021, 2022, he was an old running back. Brian has got half fun.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Brian's half-fun. It's Bayeshall, Tutin, and Quentin Johnson.

SPEAKER_04 43:22

So I think that's I think Quentin, I think QJ, you know, everybody sweats the offense so much.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

I told you there must stay away. All the Chargers.

SPEAKER_04 43:31

Now they lost their center, man.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

It's like I told you.

SPEAKER_04 43:35

What happened to Chris is not having play the if game, you're like, oh well, if he had his starting, you don't have to do all these ifs for the best players. If hey, he was when he was without this and that, and if he had this and that, he would have been great, but that always happens. Yeah. Some players you don't have to do all those if you got to lift all of them.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

Yeah, to do all that. Uh Uh okay. So what do we give him? What's his grade?

SPEAKER_04 44:03

I like how we did half of the round six, seven. We can't do all the round six seven. We're doing two. Uh this was wait, who were we on? We were on Josh. We're on Josh. You know, a lot of a lot of gross stuff in there, but some reasonable picks. I gotta go with the what? C minus. C minus. All right. You know, old Ave, old Ave's good value. Jacob's good value if you like like old injured running backs who are also going to jail.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Yes. Right. If you appreciate jail time. Um, all right, Brian. Hey, Brian, Brian, Brian, this is your turn. Brian, it's your turn.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

Brian, it's your turn. Get ready. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

All right, come on. Uh Jalen Hurts, Sun God, Loveland. I think it's disrespectful not to pull a man's full name into the keeper slot in the sheet. I don't know. Just go ahead and say that. I also I think it it coincides with the rule that you, you know, you have a you have a depth chart on your fantasy team, and if you put people out of whack, you're an asshole.

SPEAKER_04 45:11

Um, you know, I think Brian might have people out of whack right now.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

Yeah. All right. Kenneth Walker, Emeka Igbuka, Kyron Williams, Jared Goff, Devontae Adams, Bayeshalt Tutin, the aforementioned QJ, JK Dobbins, Michael Wilson, Bryce Young, Bill, Bill, LA Rams, Romeo Dobbs, Mark Andrews, Tyler Algier, who world fame was the source of a little drama. Not paying attention, Sean.

SPEAKER_04 45:49

Uh the unnamed haters, not checking the last two rounds with out here picking up people. Not even per.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

I mean, peruse it. Just peruse it. I was already worried now, like you do pull a move like that.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

But he had a good pick, actually. He picked up uh the Niners backup RB Cross sleeping at the wheel.

SPEAKER_03 46:11

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_04 46:12

Over here. Too long, too much time in Jamaica, dog.

SPEAKER_03 46:15

Oh, didn't even set your lineup yet, homie. Come on.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

Down by the beach, boy. Uh okay.

SPEAKER_04 46:28

What do we think? I mean, I set my lineup within 35 seconds.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

Literally, as soon as the team gonna see those projections.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

I see it. I want to see it. Um, all right, man. So, what do we think about his draft?

SPEAKER_04 46:43

Uh, all right. Well, I think there are a lot of good picks here. I personally you hear that we just got like these my kids are like these like we have little stopwatches, just go up. I can't figure out how to turn them off, just go off all the time.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Throw them out, just throw it in the garbage.

SPEAKER_04 46:58

That's what I thought. I I told him the call. I was like, I'm about to take a hammer of these. Uh okay. Well, a buka's hurt, but it's a good price, not a buka.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

I mean, no disrespect. Hold on, no disrespect though. The mecha buka thing sounds bad to me.

SPEAKER_04 47:15

Like it's one of those ones that, like, right, that like well, you know, and listen, he's a good player. Obviously, he did some cool things. I didn't, I'm definitely not gonna say I didn't want him. I wasn't gonna come out of my face to take him. I'm like I take him Bob Trey McBride. But he's a good player, but another one of the if players, like he's an if buzz up.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

Well, if he just imagine if they hadn't stayed healthy and he had stayed healthy, blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_04 47:39

But like, you know, and I guess you're getting him at a decent value, but it's also like sometimes when there's so many ifs.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Shades of Brian Thomas Jr.

SPEAKER_04 47:46

No, I don't think so. I think I also think he likes, you know, he is a he is a dog. I'll say that. That's my opinion. That's my take. That's my take reading between the lines, man. You gotta put the clues together, dog.

SPEAKER_01 48:01

The head in the necklace. I want to come up with a dog.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

I think I think this is I'm gonna go the dog uh metrics. I can we can figure this out. Use some AI. All right, how you know, like do you want the ball? How do other people talk about you? Is you a dog? Yeah, no, but so anyway, I think that's but I like the pick. Uh Kyron's good value. I wanted Goff. I mean, I think Goff was going pretty late. Devante was, you know, you could, you know, I'm not so excited about him. It's fine. Tutan was really good value. Although I'm not like I'm a little worried about the timeshare situation, but Tutin was a good value. QJ, I mean, it some of these like QJ and Dobbins, like Dobbins is such a Brian pick. Like Evan Stoebos, I got him ranked 60th. Right. I'm putting him over my yo, he's gonna be right. It's like okay, it's great, cool. I mean, you get 11 points, like that's a 14 team league pick. Like, you don't need uh I'm not in I'm not saying it's bad value, I'm just saying like he's fine value. It's just like is that moving the needle in our league? A guy who's gonna be good, like and get 11 points for like the first seven weeks.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

Yeah, like you could pick this like this out of a lineup and assign it to Brian, like the Romeo Dobbs thing, too.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Like, it's just terrible. I mean, why is he drafted? There's no business. I don't care what round is, what do you think is gonna happen?

SPEAKER_01 49:33

How's he gonna how's he gonna be relevant?

SPEAKER_04 49:35

What do you think is gonna it's not like you it's like a it's like drafting you think he's a backup, like it's like uh it's like oh yeah, a player like um contingent upside, like based off the ball that he's the second receiver, and like it's like there that's so whack. There's nothing, there's no juice on that vine, you know.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

I think there you gotta take some juice, like you gotta take some upside. You're talking about pick 125.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

Take some juice, man. You gotta get yourself Brendan Thompson right around there, dude. Go look at that guy, he's fast. Let's have some fun, go upside out of it. Anyway, if he still has Dobbs, that's even worse. You gotta drop Dobbs really fast. Drop him. That's half the fun of taking a guy with that. I have to drop more people already.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

Oh, this is gonna come back to you in the chat. I could feel it already.

SPEAKER_03 50:27

Oh, it's like, yeah, Mikey, yeah, bro. I mean, touchdown.

SPEAKER_04 50:33

It's like it's like that's like a Ben pick, really. It's like a wide receiver for I mean, but at his best. What are you hoping for an AJ Brown and K Sean Booty and Pop Douglas injury? Only two receivers get hurt, but anyway. I think I think like listen, I think I think Dobbins though is fine. Tootin's upside, like it's a nice combo. Michael Wilson, you know, I like Mike. Bill is good value. There's some cool picks in there. Bright Jack's totally fine. I like it all. We should address the canine thing. I don't think he doesn't like football. I shouldn't do, but I think he like the the am I wrong? The hype is out of control. The hype is out of control. Evan Silva has taken him, has him going ninth.

SPEAKER_03 51:20

Yeah, overall, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

That's crazy. Ninth overall, above Evan Silva has him ranked above James Cook.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

He's gonna he's gonna like like it's like the offensive line analysis, and then the it's like that's blasphemous. Like, how about the player?

SPEAKER_03 51:42

What about the the football player?

SPEAKER_04 51:46

He's played four years, right? He is what he is, dog.

SPEAKER_01 51:51

He is what he is.

SPEAKER_04 51:52

You want him to be an RB1. He's never been an RB1 ever. They he's I get it. I I see the logic. I'm not saying like it's a bad pick by Brian, but I think overall in the fantasy, you think it is?

SPEAKER_02 52:09

Yeah, I think so. I think like what what you're talking about with the scenario we're in with the keepers and all that, like I'm surprised you know, Sean wasn't going to take him. You know, I think he actually did the right thing in thinking, you know, if Sean had looked at anything about a fantasy draft prior to the fantasy draft, he would have been eyeing Kenneth Walker. So I I just think it was executed well. He wants him, he wants him. We'll see how he does.

SPEAKER_04 52:34

But I don't know, it's nothing wrong with the pick itself. The hype is out of control. He has never been in RB1. I understand what we expect him to do on the Chiefs, but he has a track record of not being reliable, he's a track record of not being resilient. Like he's not, that's why he's never been in RB1.

SPEAKER_05 52:55

And not to mention I have to say he left the Super Bowl team.

SPEAKER_04 53:03

I understand he won the Super Bowl MVP. He left the Super Bowl team. He wasn't paid like 22 million a year. The that is a badass GM who probably doesn't get enough credit. Like one of the top two GMs in the league, who like for the second time has like rebuilds an awesome defense and really made a fantastic roster. This dude let he didn't go after him. It wasn't like a we were really upset. It wasn't like a debate. They let him walk. Probably because they think he's a good, not great player. He's explosive, he's hit or miss, he's not that reliable, he's not that good in pass protection, he's not that good of a receiver, he runs backwards a little too often. Yeah, like that's a success rate thing. All that stuff is real.

SPEAKER_03 53:55

He didn't have 1800 yards, but like he hasn't come close to that.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

I think like that's that's what's missing from the fantasy analysis that I look at. It's just like people are scared. Like, this is like what you do when you don't want to get it wrong. This is like playing not to lose by recommending this guy.

SPEAKER_04 54:16

I mean, I that's all I'm saying is like I wouldn't have taken him above Jeremiah Love. So Brian wanted to make a shot at Jeremiah Love as a high ankle sprain, getting kicking a man when he's down, Jeremiah Love and Kenneth Walker. I prefer Jeremiah Love in our league 100%. Come week 15. Jeremiah Love is gonna be gonna be the player you want.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

We shall see. Let's take that down. That's a revisitor.

SPEAKER_04 54:48

Week 15, take it down. Consensus right now. Take a picture down anyway. It's just to say that like I think it's uh the hype is out of control. It's like he's never I get it. Like he should have he should be going pick 25 or 30 in in in redraft leagues. Like, he's like, you know, is he that different than David Montgomery?

SPEAKER_02 55:07

Yeah, I mean, it's like they they don't nobody likes Mahomes anymore, yet this guy is the number nine overall.

SPEAKER_03 55:13

Everybody's like, oh, they're gonna run the offense through him.

SPEAKER_04 55:17

Ever ran the offense, ever ran the offense through him in his life. He's never had an offense run through him, he hasn't been in that bad of a situation. They were very reasonable. Like he's listening he could have an explosive season. We see that, you see the logic, but the hype doesn't take into account the downside, just like the touch sharing and the inability to say healthy. Correct. Correct. We shall see. That's that we should say we gotta give Brian draft grade. We're gonna be here all night. I'll be I think we gotta go B minus. Oh, nothing outwards. Worse draft than the brother. Is what you're saying? I thought his I thought his brother, uh I thought his brother, I like, I like I like uh the first seven picks that Mike made, really.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Shout out to Mike. Okay, next one, Chris, the MVP of the weekend, even though uh actually Josh was the MVP of the weekend because he handled so much shit. Um he drove me all the way to the airport. When I handled things, drove me all the way to the city.

SPEAKER_04 56:29

That's really why you like it. Mike didn't drive you. Mike made you get a cab from his apartment.

SPEAKER_02 56:33

Yeah, he took me. He said, Hey, get a cab. He's the kind of guy that drops you a few blocks from your house so he doesn't have to turn down the street. He's like, Oh, I'll drop you almost done.

SPEAKER_00 56:41

That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

Um, Jameer Gibbs, Christian McCaffrey, and Ashton Genty.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

Pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

That's uh good thing to be handed for doing nothing. Um, so wait, we have how am I gonna know who's available? Uh all right, we got Nico Collins, Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford was a big point of contention. It was fun to see the Roth brothers argue.

SPEAKER_04 57:10

Um, in real life is fun the word that you would use.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

You use the word fun.

SPEAKER_04 57:14

No, no, there's a word, uh I wouldn't go right to fun.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

All right, so Nico Collins, Matthew Stafford, Garrett Wilson, Brock Purdy, Alec Pierce, also a point of contention, Harold Fannon, Jacoby Myers, Rico Dowdle, Debo Samuel, CJ Stroud, Jaden Higgins, R.I.P. Jordan James, Philadelphia, Rashid Tahid, Shashid, and Tank Dell. Well, he's got the backup.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

He got the no, he doesn't have the backup. Come on, man. I don't have to say what the backup is. I'll have to say his name. Don't say his name. You have to drink.

unknown 57:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:54

I'll say it. Uh I won't, but I will not say because I'm picking him up. I almost picked him up today. You don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

That's why you're not paying attention. All right. So, what do we think about Chris's draft here?

SPEAKER_04 58:06

Uh if you were gonna mess up that that uh key. I already said how I feel about Nico. I said I feel about Nico. I can't hate on anyone take Stafford and Purdy. I like that. Garrett Wilson's fine value in the in the in our league in the third round, like pick like 55. That's good. Uh it's fan in. I don't think you have to rush, but you know, you rush too on the tight end. But I mean, the Alec Pierce Jacoby Myers thing is really bad, and he you could still figure it out. Like, he he's still like if his RBs are healthy and Purdy and Stafford are having pretty good seasons, like he's gonna be a tough ass. He's gonna be tough to beat. But like he uh Alec Pierce is the worst pick in the draft, in my opinion. Like, that's the middle, that's the fifth round. Like that he goes before Mike Evans, and I'm not even that into Mike Evans, but like there are a lot of good players going, and like this is a guy who probably like if he were fully healthy, should have been two rounds later. If Chris doesn't take him, he might have gone four or five, he might have gone 50 picks later.

SPEAKER_02 59:12

Uh Alec Pierce was taken ahead of he's taken ahead of Jordan Tyson. Jordan Tyson Josh Downs, Jaden Reed. Yeah, a lot ahead of a lot of a lot of players he got taken ahead of.

SPEAKER_04 59:28

And then Jacoby Myers is just like that's like that's like not even a paperworth making in this league. Like a guy who's gonna come on, we'll see him there. It's the same thing. It's like Romeo Dobbs is earlier. It's like you're gonna you get so you get eight points, so you go ahead to have your nine points. Maybe you caught a touchdown. It's not relevant. In the 10 C league, it's not relevant. So I I don't like it. But you know, he's do he's doing it with the help of Claude. I think we gotta give this. I think I think we gotta give this one uh D. Dang. Bang.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:05

Um receivers and one of the receivers. I thought Higgins was actually good. All right, we gotta speed it up. We've been here a long time.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

Here we go. Here we go. Chucky's draft goes in with Jackson Dart, Bijan Robinson, and Drake London. How many Falcons can you have on a team? Uh Derek Henry, Zay Flowers, Luther Burden, Travis Achan, Bo Nicks, Isaiah Likely, Jalen Warren, Chris Godwin, Kenneth Gangwell, Sam Darnold, Deshaun Stribling, my favorite. Omar Cooper is maybe such a terrible pick. Jonah Coleman, Kenyon Sadiq, Travis Hunter.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:50

What do you think? Yeah, I thought this was. I mean, usually good job. I'm not that into Zay Flowers and Burden. I prefer, you know, you take Burton on T Higgins and Cocky. Personally, obviously, I would do that. But I think Burden, I appreciate the upside of Burden. And like Zay is at least a high floor pick. And I think Derrick Henry's right. A chan is good value, Jalen Warren's good value. Ken Gainwell's good value. You have the best running backs stable in the league. Not to gas you up, Isaiah likely is like 30 picks too early. So that's your mistake. But you know, like I think this is a I think this is just good. I think this is a good draft. I don't see many bad. I don't think you did much, but I think it's a B. Wow. I'm being honest. I'm just like, I'm assessing it right now. I don't see many. You didn't make like Omar Cooper is really weird, but like, you know, even Darnold Stribling, like, that's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:48

Striblings like the second best exciting young receiver out of all the rookies.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:54

All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

The first one is the guy. Right? That's your boy.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

Yep, yep. Shout out to you.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:04

You're good. You know what's coming. So that's good. Good job.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Uh um, all right, cool. We'll take that B. We'll take that. All right. Next up, we got Fish. Uh, Fish came into the draft with an interesting decision. He went with Pickens in the franchise and uh Cook in the two-year Caleb Williams as a rookie. I personally would have switched the tags for Pickens and Cook, but that's just because I don't like crazy people, but that's uh just me. Um, all right, he went Justin Herbert, Devonta Smith, David Montgomery, Tete Roa, McMillan, Mike Evans, Jadarian Price, Denzel Boston, the wrong Cleveland receiver, Ramondre Stevenson, Tyrone Tracy, Kyle Pitts. There he is, Katron Allen, the Chargers, Ray Davis, Pat Bryant, and Dylan Sampson.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:07

Yeah, I mean, real quick, I mean, I I I really wanted David Montgomery. I would have taken him. I think David Montgomery's good value. Devonta Smith, Herbert, like that's all I like. All that I don't like Tet too much. Mike Evans, like, people will tell you that's really good value. You evans all over him. He's old. I mean, people are forgetting. I think people have too much. They like too they draw too many corollaries with last year. Like, so Devontae Adams had a really good year. And now we're back on the old receivers. And I know Mike Evans would go much earlier if he weren't old, but like I he's 33, 32.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

This guy like makes too like this guy uh established the run. It's like you like Kittle coming off the thing is too too much to touch, but like this guy's fine. He's like he's drafting him as much as possible. Like, I don't right. And he doesn't like AJ Brown.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:07

And then but why are you all over Mike Evans? I mean, he doesn't he doesn't he he doesn't make enough sense, man. Some of the stuff and all over the K9 thing. Mike Evans is fine, value though, though, not to disrespect Fish. I think price, whatever, I have explained that I don't like being involved with the Seahawks. Right. Obviously, there's residual lingering issues, perhaps that relates to K9 too. And then you know Denzel Boston got cut. I didn't know anything about Denzel Boston. I thought that was 50 picks too early. I got Jonathan Brooks next, so I was very happy when he did that. Like I I appreciate that people like him though. That's like Ben Solak, like Fish is listening. Ben Solak was like all I like looked on Twitter two days later, he's like all over this guy. But to me, like the not explosive Cleveland receiver, like I'm I wasn't really that into anything there. I don't I think that's just too early. But otherwise, I think most of these pictures are like he already dropped Tyrone Tracy. That's why you do it, man. Just let him go. No problem. That was crazy. Already did lose his job, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:12

I was gonna say, he's like gonna hit the streets, he might hit the curve.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:15

Oh, the streets in real life, and then come on, Kyle Pitts. Just take that, pick up that value. When you don't take a tight end, pick up the value and just let it ride. Stream, wait until September 5th. You don't need to take Kyle Pitts there. You do not, yeah. You know my feeling. Obviously, yeah, obviously, you know you're getting a uh downgrade there, but I thought the early picks are are very reasonable. I'm not taking Herbert over Jeremiah Love, I'm not doing that. He lost his center. Now what? There's like, well, if he just had his center. I mean, I think he's gonna have a really good year. I appreciate that. It's exciting.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

That's my stay.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:56

I appreciate it. It's exciting. I think he's gonna have a good year. I'd be really surprised. If he's not putting up some numbers.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:03

But like I think the hypothesis is everyone. He sit in the grass with his girl, play with his hair, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:09

Yo, he is playing everybody's a dog, huh?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

This is this is not acceptable. This is too much smoochy smoothie. It's Kathy Face. Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:21

What kind of grown man does that?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:23

That shit is wild, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:25

This is this is not good. Not good. It's not good. But we listen, I got a lot of chargers, so I'm not. I like trying to do the thing where Mike, I like Mike McDaniel, but I I can't get to Herbert. I obviously never have a chance at Herbert, but I think you know, I think he's gonna regret not taking the stud rookie RB. But otherwise, I think it's a bringing draft. I give it uh I think this gets uh some of this though in the middle. I think we gotta take a C plus C plus for the middle stuff. Oh sorry, that's the wrong pick. I like that I like the first, you know, the first three picks.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:00

So I think okay, good for him. Shout out to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:03

Um you gotta grade you gotta grade me. Oh, I gotta grade you. Okay, we'll do you here. All right, Mikey came in. Tell them your keepers, Mikey. Tell them, dog.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:14

Well, we know Puka, neighbors, Hand. Come on, show some respect. Okay, show some respect to Han in this fantasy community. Just so disrespectful.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:27

Disrespect. Jeremiah Love, Trey McBride, T. Higgins, Ladd McConkey, Baker Mayfield, Malik Willis, Jonathan Brooks, Blake Coram, Cam Ward, Keaton Mitchell, Mike Washington, Captain Malik. Oh, that is that what it was? That's what I dropped him anyway, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:46

Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

That's all right. James Connor, Dylan Coker, Brendan Thompson. I have to say, shout out to you. You have transact, you have been transacting like a madman already. Um, you know, I feel like the best part of this draft for me is the T. Higgins, Lad McConkie 3-4 turn. I think that's a lot of value. I did not expect Ladd McConkey.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:13

I thought Ladd was going.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:14

I said I thought Ladd was going to be like, I didn't expect him to be there. Um, I think again, you know, the two cardinals to start off the draft, both of them are very, very, very good players. These are like, you know, elite talent players. I just really worry about what that season's gonna be like, man. I just I don't think you're gonna want to have two cardinals when you're talking about weekends.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:36

I guess I mean I just want to say one thing about this, I just say one thing about the Cardinals. And I'm not even coming in here trying to get two Cardinals. I was not. I I actually was trying to get Jeremiah Love really, really badly. I certainly would have taken him right after CJ. But I wasn't like, I didn't think Trey McBride would make it. I wasn't like out of my face to get Trey McBride. I just want to say overall, the Cardinals supported like the literal tight end one record setting tight end season, and the wide receiver one for the second half of last year. They brought the quarterback back, they brought in a new coordinator who's part of the tree that everybody loves.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:15

I mean, I'm not sure that you get to do this. Nobody else got to do this. I think I'm grading your draft, man. I think you gotta show you.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:21

I'm just I just want to say I'm making a point though. Forget about my draft. I'm just making a point about the Cardinals. I don't understand. Then it's like, oh, they're gonna be terrible, like they're they're gonna be completely fantasy unfriendly. Not that much change, other than they got what might be a better coach. But that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:38

We shall see. I think it's more about the schedule that I'm concerned about. Um, I think I think you know, the Baker Mayfield Malik Willis thing is good. I like the double check.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:52

Um, oh, why would you pick a QB right there?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:00

Um you know, yeah, assholes. I think you know, there's a lot of upside um in this draft. I like it. Everybody's gonna bust my chops for this, but I do think it's a good draft, guys. Um it's okay. You can just tell you say what you feel, man. Uh I'm gonna hit it with a B minus. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:23

Wow, it was a level up. Okay, fair enough. It's not bad. You can't go too high because you don't want you don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:30

Yeah, yeah, because the the riff raff would be too much to bear. Uh okay, so for Ben. Ben has uh Chase, JSN, and Cam with an exclamation point. Disrespect in the keeper boxes, just utter disrespect. Uh Dak Prescott, Javante Williams, Brees Hall, Trevor Lawrence. I mean, have you seen a more Ben typical Ben draft? Carnell Pate, Sam Laporta, Tony Pollard, Makai Lemon, Matthew Golden, Rashad White, Marshawn Lloyd, Geno Smith, Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:13

I don't like the end of this now, though. Jalen this little ending situation is not for me. But I thought the beginning, I mean, listen, I think you get Dak. He's like, I have really good receivers. You had Dak and T Law. Like, he could have gotten the two best receivers in the draft. T Law fell. I wanted T Law. I was happy with what I got that I would have taken T Law. I mean, I understand getting Javante. You're getting, I thought he took him too early. I just don't want him. I don't want a player who hasn't been very good for most of his career. And I think Brees Hall is one of those guys who's like he's an if guy. It's like, when is it gonna happen? Now he's hurt. So he's but like that's good value. I don't and I don't think it's gonna be reasonable picks for where they are, but it's just like Carnel take too much medicine taking, too much medicine taking this drink. It's really all he does, all he does is medicine, medicine, medicine, medicine, there's a lot of medicine. I thought I think the like lemon, golden, Rashad White, Marshawn Lloyd, Gino situation is like that. Is just dead dead men walking. There's like no fun upside anywhere. I mean, I guess you could say Marshawn Lloyd, but to me, like with Ty Lemon, like I see he's a rookie. It's like this is like a slot of sea with Jalen Hurts. What do we think is gonna happen there? Oh, I don't know. You excited about that, and that guy's a weirdo.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:43

Should we play an RB?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

What's that? Nothing. I just made another RB.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:49

Oh, uh, he might. Yeah, I don't know. Could be could be. We know Brees is we know Brees. Yeah, hard is actually the most.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:59

Where's that neck hole at? Give me that neck hold.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:02

I don't know. I think we gotta like I think it's fine though. Like, I think he's just like is it seeming to be bad? Like he's got these two really good QBs and these two really good receivers. Can Scadabow, Javante, like he's gonna have a good team, so it's hard to say the draft isn't good, but I think he left some stuff on the table second.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:19

You don't think Scatabow lost his job, huh? You don't think that?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:22

No, I maybe it's a little bit of a time more of a timeshare. Yeah, and Javante's gonna get the ball, but like I don't know. I don't I don't like these guys who aren't very good. Have a problem when you're not that good of a player.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

Although, I mean, I think two cowboys better than two cardinals, so that's what I would say.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:41

That's true, that is true. But Ben also wanted Jeremiah Love. You know this.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:45

Oh, he did. Oh, he definitely did. He wouldn't tell you, he's not gonna tell you that. He told me. Oh, he told you after. Did he come and put his arm around you? He put it across his legs and put his arm around you.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

Because you know why? Because because you always say it with with Bajan, the unicorn. It's like a pass catching running back who's drafted in like the top five or seven. You gotta get him. That's you get one chance. Everybody almost everybody had a chance. You get one chance, like it does not. When's the next time it's gonna happen? Every couple of years. Normally they go one. Yeah, the Cardinals helped me, but anyhow. I think this draft is a C. It's a little bit low offside, but you know, a lot of really solid picks. Sure, team will be good. Good job, Ben. Must be nice, Ben.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:39

Must be nice. Congrats to Ben. And congrats long. Great job.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:45

Great job. Hard to grade all these drafts, but you know, we care. We do it for the people, we do it for BH.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:51

I hope he's happy for you, Brian. For you. I hope he's happy.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:54

I forget his draft grade already. We don't. I I've forgotten all of them. They were all very close. There weren't that many bad ones.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:00

Brian gave a B minus.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:02

Oh B minus for Brian. Nice. You wrote them down.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:06

Uh the transcript did. So we will have them. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:11

Excited to revisit this.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:13

Shout out to Claude. Shout out to Chris. Shout out to all of y'all. Oh, y'all. Shout out to y'all.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:22

Shout out to you. Nice work.

unknown 1:15:25

Hey.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:33

Oh, notes too. Okay. Yeah, we're ready to rock.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:37

Ready to rock. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:40

Draft grades, right? Have some fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:44

That's it. That's it. Have some fun. Just have a little fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

Okay. Recap. Recap, maybe? A little recap of the weekend?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:54

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:55

Get into it slowly and then do some draft grades. Best draft pick of all of them, worst draft pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:01

Okay, perfect.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:02

Something like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:04

Three. Two.